Considering DD kai ni's range from lvl 55 to lvl 70, I'd say stop at around lvl 65 to be on the safe side. You don't want another repeat of the Maya kai ni, where everyone thought her remodel level would be much lower than it actually was.
I have mixed feelings about a Murakumo Kai2. She's my starter, and I try to be sure to use her every once in a while, but I can't help but be worried about new art. Hatsuharu Kai2 looked ok, but some of the charm of her original art was lost (can't quite place my finger on it... maybe the simplicity?). Well, just have to hope she looks good.
As for level, I'll probably get her to 70, since that seems to be a popular level for Kai2 DDs recently.
I'm wondering why they're bringing out 1-6 right before the event instead of after. I'd like to try it out, but since I'm saving resources for the event I don't think I'll get the chance until next month.
In regards to Murakumo, I'm going to wait until after her second remodel is out before I decide whether to level her up, or not. Tryingt to lvl a DD to 70 or 75 at map 1-5 is a nightmare for me since I get troll node A now.
Although Murakumo was my starter ship, I didn't like her character design much. Even if her Kai-2 has great stats, or comes with really good equipment, I'll probably just continue to put her on the back burner (like a lot of the other DDs) if her new art doesn't to suit my taste.
^Don't train DD in 1-5 when they are lvl 20 or so... instead go to 4-3(I suppose you have it unlocked, ignore it otherwise) with the DD as flagship, just do the two subs nodes, there is a chance to go into node J, which may contain a BB, but it's a very eficient map to train DD and CL to higher lvl.
KiraSama92 wrote: ^Don't train DD in 1-5 when they are lvl 20 or so... instead go to 4-3(I suppose you have it unlocked, ignore it otherwise) with the DD as flagship, just do the two subs nodes, there is a chance to go into node J, which may contain a BB, but it's a very eficient map to train DD and CL to higher lvl.
I considered lvling in 4-3 or 5-2 (since I haven't tried them yet), but I was worried about the amount of fleet damage I'd sustain on those two maps compared to 1-5. Since the event is coming up soon, I can't really afford to test out those waters because i'm stocking up on resources, but as soon as it's over I'll definitely give it a go. Thanks!
Oh, and I hope that 1-6 can be a possible DD/CL lvling map. ;P
it s certainly a ressource focused map in order to allow to grind for events. the question is will it allow us to used the low ressource ships cvl like houshou or zuihou [ limited plane count and slot ].
But i bet more on the usual AACI DD run + yuba-ooyo with optional AV to replace CTL
Diferent tipes of ships i was able to use on 1-6, the last one is on Aviation Battleship form, didn't try with subs, i had them all on expeditions and it will take a while for them to come back, also didn't use Aviations cruisers or special ships since i don't have any of those.
My Murakumo is still lvl 10 or 11, together with a bunch of DD/CL that spans over 2 pages, that I rotate for the daily repair quest. I usually send a fleet of the 5 lowest levels of the bunch to have tea with Re-chan. The exp from that node is not bad, for a D rank, and they all come back wanting a bath.
hahaha you again, I can only see innocent players get banned under your "extended" macro tracking mechanism, and my automatic sortie/expedition programs&my accounts are running quite well, f##k you KADOKAWA!
Chiorin wrote: can someone help me translate what is written under my kanmusu's limit..? the +140 one i mean..
got this today...
also the feather icon under equipment limit, what is that?
That feather icon one probably reads "Maxium number of active quests", I remember reading somewhere(should be the official twitter) that this update made increasing the limit of active quests possible.
so whats the chance of this new personnel thing being useful for something else down the line, other than quest space unlock... I mean really there is only 1 day a week that it would be helpful for me.... but that is my heavy play day anyhow, and I still get to the point of routinely having 2 quests at most... I guess i am skeptical sometimes on these things.
art is that not bad really, dat legs tho, but about stat, it's not worth for 70 lv kai ni, comparing to fubuki, come up with 94 fire director, or ayanami with strength of CA, and decent luck, or Hatsushimo with, insane luck, (even can surpass yukikaze if you had enough maruyus to the food dish) but well i guess you should kai ni your murakamo, if you don't like her stat or art, yeaah, it's enough to fill up the library
verny 70 with some decent luck, maybe she comparable with hatsuharu kai ni level 65, if murakamo kai ni 65 definitely worth it , but 70 ? it's little bit uuh, maybe easy to grind her for high level admirals, or for no life, NEET some sort of, but for people who busy with work (like me lol) and only have play time 1-3 hour per day, it's difficult , but in the end she have her turn to kai ni anyway, but still if stat whore and equipment TTK choose ayanami,shigure,hatsushimo,fubuki,and yuudachi, and murakumo for subtitute
going by the logic of stats and equipments determining if a Kai-Ni is worth it... Verniy at lv 70 with only big HP to her name (she doesn't even get any new equipment) is ridiculously not worth it. DDs have paper-thin defense anyways, having a slightly larger HP actually makes no difference since when they do get hit, more often than not they will get one-shotted.
personally, a kai-ni is still a kai-ni. minor stat improvement is still a stat improvement. i'll take any kind of upgrade i can get my hands on. being able to rotate reliable (aka higher than average stat of their class) ships out means i don't have to waste buckets when i'm running out of time clearing 3-5.
^Verniy is the least worthy DD Kai Ni, or even out of all Kai Ni. Increased health simply means longer repair time but we'll probably bucket it anyway. Nevertheless, she's in 6thDesDiv so yeah, it's ok :D.
They should update Verniy equipment and change her status some how.
For equipment, We know what Russian gave her right?, just add them in and make up their status. As for how to give them to player who are already remodel-ed Hibiki... maybe add in a quest that require you to have Verniy in the fleet and reward players with Verniy's equipment.
As for her status....since HP and ASW seem to be her strong point....They should Change her HP to about 80 (make no change to [armor] status,with that, it shouldn't be too OP for DD) This will also make her being the DD with very long repair time which fit for "The secret of the Phoenix is the timing of it's repairs" . Lastly, further increase her ASW.
Not really, HP80 with the same amount armor will only make her able to tank 1-2 more hit from heavier ships and she's still can be killed by DD and CL normal attack. She will not be as strong as CA and BB. I think it is balance. (or maybe, her armor should be increased insted??)
It still doesn't click right. HP 80 is around the same level as a BB (even without the super armor) and I don't see why a DD should get that much HP even if it's Hibiki. What does she do to make her deserve that much HP increase after remodel? The russian didn't transform her into an monstrous ship or anything.
As for your arguement on: this will also make her being the DD with very long repair time which fit for "The secret of the Phoenix is the timing of it's repairs"
It doesn't go together. The phrase "The secret...is the timing" =/= Long repair time. It means she just timed it right; at the moment when she just start her repairment a battle happened and she missed it.
Survive for 1-2 more hit(s) from CA/BB is good enough. You can use her in many situation. DD mainly depends on their evasion anyway.
Don't think too much about 80Hp I suggested, it is just an idea to play with game system. I like when a game do something strange with status. For example: In RPG, sometime you will find an monster with very high HP but has 0 defense so all attack does massive damage to it. Sometime you will find a monster with very low HP but with very high defense and you can only do like 1 digit damage to them at most.