Talk:General Discussion/@comment-24853173-20141018020339/@comment-58.187.34.66-20141019055147

Talk about Pre-Kai DD grinding in 4-3, I do have a fleet specialized for that:

http://www.kancolle-calc.net/deckbuilder.html?id=TGPx6rZMG4

Any CL/CLT can be support ASW ships, just make sure they have only 60-65 ASW damage stat (not ship's listed ASW stat).

Though, u'll have to settle with A rank at times due to Elite Yo in Head-on engagement or random misses, but getting DD flag MPV is the main objective. Also, I didn't find node J that annoying; if my theory about targeting chance is correct, enemy flag BB/CA tend to target the 5th and 6th ships in your fleet a bit more often than others, so I placed CV and BBV there and it worked often. Sub nodes sometimes have surface vessels in it, your BB and CV CA should be able to take care of them while not stealing MPV unless random crit.