Board Thread:Special Events/@comment-25730832-20150401144801/@comment-26289480-20150409054116

Nothis wrote:

Jenesis33 wrote:

Nothis wrote:

Jenesis33 wrote: I think it should be mentioned. its bad idea for low (even medium) level Player to hoard resources. . (bucket is different story)

As in they should spend those time leveling up their fleet.. (these last 3 weekish? ).. too many new players see an event coming and start saving.. but in truth its far more important to have a well balanced and high level fleet going into an event..

TLDR: if you dont have a well trained fleet. dont hoard.. use these few weeks to catch up on whatever you need.. ASAP..

Bucket is different story.. If you don't hoard, you will have no resources to continue, i mean, you always need to use at least a fleet of CV or BB in those combined fleet map which can drain up to 500 fuel/ammo or more per sortie. Overral just do both, it better to be a half grinder/ half hoarder than a hoarder or a grinder. I guess my point is it is too early to start hoarding.. Let's say you go into event with 0 resources.. literally 0.. If you keep running expediition. and natural regen.. you can get 5k resources a day easy.. natural regen is 1.5k ish..i dont think 3.5k for 3 team expedition is that hard... So 14 days in event you get 70k resources....

even like you said.. each sortie eats 500.. thats 140 sortie.. I think thats enough to beat the event maps on medium(easy) if you have a good leveled fleet.. (like assuming there is no ridicolous pathing .. you can almost always get to boss node with right fleet composition.. and in lower diffculty you will not be heavily damaged on the way.. plus eailer map should be much easier to clear.. should only need a few tries)

On the other hand I don't think every map will eat 500.. like only 2-3 maps might be combined fleet.. and E1/E2 most likely only need a light-weighted fleet..

Even you can't clear with 140 sortie.. assume you need 3 bucket per sorties.. tahts 400 buckets.. i dobut most players have 400.. '''so my point is you will be out of buckets.. before you run out of resources..'''. That's why i keep saying Bucket is different story.

For TTK with a well balanced fleet.. they dont need to do much.. can save up.

For players like me. who still have massive hole in my fleet. i think i need to burn every resources i have to fill up these gaps.. Even start hoarding 3 days before the event starts.. (plus first few days.. no one should be doing maps unless you are one of the top players).. that should be enough time .. like 3+3 days.. that give me 30-50k resources when i decide to start trying event..

Just my view.. A fleet consist of two BB go all the way to the boss in 3~4 nodes alone is already 200 fuel and more for ammo and a light fleet is already 100 fuel/ammo so what you saying. It not like the world is always perfect so you also need to consider any possible fails in a RNG based game. And you knows what Devs can do to troll us even if it is low difficulty. I also doubt about the 70k rsc you saying, you forgot some important things: It is only theory, it took me 4 damn months to actually get 70k rsc (and i used some for LSC and dealing RNG crap) and you will need constant sparkle to get that 3.5k for 3 expedition teams and this is where the time step in, you will want to run as much expedition as possible and to gain rsc more effective you will need to get your expedition fleet to have 85 (for normal 1-1) or 100 (PVP only) maximum morale so your rsc gaining can become effective but instead of doing that you could save up to 20~30 mins for some expedition than 50% increase (i assume you want as much rsc as possible without wasting time) and the damn natural regen is slow as hell and like what i said before, RNG is unpredictable. Sometimes you will get lucky and sometimes you will not so your rsc depend on RNG. Conclusion: 70k rsc is only when you don't do anything to your fleet and only constant running expedition in a 2 weeks window (highly doubt about you doing nothing for 2 weeks, you will need to level them up so they can fight RNG easier) 1) Like i said.. Bucket will run out before resources.. I dobut most players have 500+ buckets (and 0 resources.. most players with that much bucket has a lot of resources too)

2)5k a day is doable easy. Since you ask me for it. I will break it down for you.. natural regen is 3.5k.. so i need 8.5k from my exp teams.. Lets say i can do 6 hours at home (in front of PC). so I can run 12 exp 2 (team 1)... 2 exp 21 (team 2).. 4 exp 5 (team 3).. team 1 no need to sprakle.. so thats 1200 ammo already.. team 2 sparkle.. so roughly 1000 fuel 800 ammo .. team 3 sparkle.. so 1200 ammo 1200 fuel. thats 3200 ammo.. 2200 fuel.. i know it will spend some on sparkling and running those exp.. But we also have day time.. assume you can do one reset when you wake up.. thats another 2 exp 21 (sparkle. 1 team).. 1 exp 16 (takes 15 hour. do it when you go to bed.. sparkle).. 2 exp 13 (sparkle team 3).. so team 1: 1000 fuel 800 ammo.. team 2: 750 fuel 750 ammo.. team 3: 720 fuel 900 ammo.. thats total of 2500 fuel .. 2400 ammo. add to the night amount.. i have a total of 4700 fuel.. 5600 ammo.. 

'''Ok now i can take away 1000 for sparkle and running cost.. i still have 3500+ fuel. 4500+ ammo!!!!! I really dobut you need 1000.. but hey...'''

And this is assuming you only do 6 hours a day.. (you dont have to play.. just collect expedition).. And You should be abel to get much more if you can check in here and there to collect some exp or during weekend!!!

So i dont know why it took you 4 months.. clearly it doesnt..

3). Real life example. night before. i went to bed with 11k fuel 8.5k ammo. i play 6 hours last night after work.. and when i get home today I will have 15+k fuel.. 13k+ ammo. And I grind at least 3-2A 50 times last night. (80 ammo per 3-2A run.. 50 thats 4K ammo!!)

4)All the above. i have not factor in boost from daily and weekly quest (even monthly. since this event will go into May).  I have read it somewhere and done the math myself. you can get 1k resources from daily easy ..

5)I already stated I know its RNG driven.. othwerise you dont need 140 sorties.. you just need 5 for each map. 25 and you are done.



In the end, all i m trying to say is dont hoard 2 (3?) weeks in advance.. train your fleet.. you can start stockpiling 3 days before event start.. and you will be fine..

I have presented all the maths above.. and if you flip through winter event.. you can see many low lvl TTK go into event with less resources than they finished with.

This does not apply for hard mode.. !!! which i keep repeating this is only for TTK who hasn't got a event-ready fleet yet.. and you should start hoarding as much buckets as you can now!