Talk:Summer 2017 Event/E-3/@comment-72.224.178.102-20170817185417/@comment-28069733-20170818211424

@Fazel412

Excellent deduction work there, it's been a long while since I've seen someone competent challenge the info we have without calling everything a lie with no basis or trying to push a baseless claim.

The samples you've challenged are actually part of a coordinated effort of me and Ruffix at the discord. While I cannot deny that some submitted samples could potentially be false, I assure you that the samples you challenged are legitimate and here is my response to your challenge:

Challenge
"A challenge to the Kongou rule, utilizing the exact same comp, and the exact same ship as line 59 submitted onto this spreadsheet. The exact same comp went start to B, not start to A. Perhaps the rules change again if the map is cleared as opposed to still on hp phase? Or perhaps using Zuikaku as a regular carrier instead of an armored carrier matters? Not very likely, but these two are significant differences between us. If it fails on easy, it would make little sense for it to work on hard, as typically hard mode tends to have more restrictions than easy, not less. (Screenshot)

My Response
Here is the screenshot in question regarding the test. While the tests is pretty much the same, the main difference is that our test was during the HP Phase, while yours was done when you have already cleared the map. When I looked through the differences, I came to the same conclusion that the routing must have changed after you clear the map, because the sample does not give any signs of random routing either nor does it make much sense that an easier difficulty would suddenly get a harder routing. While the other difference is the armored carrier, I cannot imagine them suddenly treating CV and CVB separately after they've clumped them together for 3 years. For that reason, I'll amend that the Kongou historical doesn't work after you have cleared the map.

Our investigation started when we found a blog which contains this com that went to A. You can see in the sheet under the name Ruffix in which we had narrowed down the possibilities, until we found a logical conclusion which doesn't conflict with any other branching rules. As we lacked samples which are submitted after they have cleared the map, it was also my reason that I put the branching rule up as during the HP Phase.

Anyway, thanks a lot for your help, keep up the good work!