Talk:533mm Quintuple Torpedo Mount (Initial Model)/@comment-32962711-20181225175725/@comment-85.76.32.212-20181226140626

The point is that the failure rate of early USN torpedos was huge. It was not only duds, but torpedos totally losing their course before reaching target. If that is not worth negative stats, then nothing is. It's the very same thing with the poor quality shells that the Vittorio Venetos had to use.

It's difficult to compare directly to other torpedo mounts, but if we had nonoxygen quintuple 61cm torpedos launcher, then that would certainly have had 9 torpedo stat without any secondary stat, since oxygen torps give +3 to triple and quad. With the +1 FP this would be as good. Those nonoxygen 61cm torpedos still had heavier warhead and they worked well.

I don't really remember many cases of IJN shells not detonating. Some happened in Samar, because they initially fired AP shells at destroyers, but those are not even supposed to detonate when hitting practically no armor.