Talk:List of light cruisers by upgraded maximum stats/@comment-26139968-20150305161901/@comment-25534439-20150306172756

Slash, If you want to know what the EliteCLT page is used for, I suggest looking at the shiplist, because people would inevitably ask why there was no EliteCLT page even though CLTs now have their own row in the shiplist.

It's disingenuous to say that "every other kai ni CL has their first remodel listed here" and use it to justify including the first remodel of a CLT. That it improves the information on the page is the all justification you need for minor changes. (Personally, I can't see why you wouldn't remodel Ooi+KTKM, but whatever floats people's boats).

While the suggestion and sandboxing system does not foster as wide a range of opinion as would be ideal, there is no way to actually get the breadth of opinion you ask for without actually merging the update from the sandbox. See the Expedition page update for all the evidence you'll ever need on that: The sandboxed version was finalized 2 weeks before the winter event and had a bold, red message posted at the top of the expedition page for all to see. This sat there for a month. Literally anyone who gave the slightest shit had a month to go look at the new page and comment. Looking at some of the responses in the expedition comments after the update, you'd think we'd killed their children. We can provide a dozen alerts about upcoming changes and a dozen avenues for people to provide their opinions, but there is no way for us to compel them to care enough to comment.

And nobody's saying you can't edit them after a major update, cut the persecution complex.

Arteria, the suggestion/sandbox cycle is for major page updates, not fixing every little issue on a page. If people were actually suggesting a major revert, it would need to go through that; adding in Ooi Kai and Kitakami Kai does not constitute a revert or a major change.

107.77.87.52, The wiki needs a solid process to make major revisions to pages. This is a relatively new system, so we're still trying to work out issues like how to get more public attention to the major updates. If you have any suggestions for how to do so, by all means, we would like to hear them.