Board Thread:Wikia Discussion/@comment-25683568-20150318062713/@comment-25606292-20150620064444

Ckwng wrote: Well, 4 days and no feedback, so I guess I'll condense some of the opinions that were previously heard that I see merit in.

First is the removal of Mount from item names, rather that standardizing it. Akashi's Improvement Arsenal currently uses this format. However, 15.2cm Twin Gun Mount Kai has been using Mount and no-one's complaining, so it seems like there's just apathy. Anyone have preferences?

Second is the translation of 爆雷投射機. It's currently Depth Charge Projector in the lua modules. Everywhere else on the wikia is using the incorrect translation of just "Depth Charge". There were people who preferred Depth Charge Launcher or Depth Charge Thrower however. Anyone have a preference?

Third is the translation of 号. Personally, I can't let it continue to be "Type" for radars, because they have an actual 式 (Type) designation. I've gone with No., like the 20.3cm guns. The autogyro also has this issue, but since it isn't a number and doesn't have an actual 式 designation I'm fine with "Ka-type". I wanted "Type Ka" earlier but thinking back on it, "__-type" helps differentiate it from 式 which I think is important. That means that 毘式 must become Type Bi, however. There's also the option of going with "Ka-gou", but that doesn't really mesh with our current translation methodology...

Hopefully this stirs up some feedback. If I get no feedback I will be using the names currently used by the Lua modules and renaming pages when implementing Template:EquipmentInfoKai. Despite stumbling upon this whole translation debacle several times I have been trying to keep my nose out of this on account of only being an English speaker despite very strongly objecting at several points, however in this case I just can't.

>Removing Mount

You can't remove the word Mount in most cases without violating English grammar. Even if it is an accurate translation, assuming that the word Mount is never used in the Kanji, not including the word Mount would be removing the subject from the name, thus it would be a critical translation error. You simply can not do that in English and it horrifies me that this seems to have been actually seriously considered.

Do note, however, that this varies from Name to Name. For instance you can safely remove the word mount from 12.7cm Single High-Angle Gun Mount as the subject there can just as easily be Gun instead. If there's more than 1 gun the name is describing the mounting, not the weapon itself. If there's only 1 gun though, the subject can be either. In fact, in the case of Single Gun Mounts, both the words Single and Mount are redundant and could be removed entirely.

That's probably how the term Naval Gun started getting used, as a way to remove that redundancy while still being descriptive enough to not seem like a poor translation and entirely correct.

>On the topic of 25mm Triple Autocannon Mount (Concentrated Deployment)

"Where did the Parenthesis come from?" The answer is English Grammar. Think of every item name as a sentence describing the piece of equipment. Consider that '25mm Triple Autocannon Mount' would a complete sentence. Concentrated Deployment is not part of that sentence and is just an explanatory interjection, which needs to be enclosed in Parenthesis to be considered gramatically correct.

> On the topic of Anti Torpedo Bulges

With the introduction of the Pugilese System to the game, I would think it's pretty clear what the devs intended these to be. If you're still deadset on changing the name, however, I believe the word you might be looking for would be Sponson. Anti-Torpedo Bulges are a form of Sponson, for reference.

>Abyssal Cat Fighter

I approve of this name so very, very much. The old one seemed to be in poor taste. But... uh... please don't remove the space between Abyssal and Cat. Even if it is supposed to be a pun, that is very awkward to read... The enemy equipment page read like that when I checked and I'm not sure if it was a mistake or not, so I wanted to make my thoughts known on that issue...

>Depth Charges

For what it's worth, I prefer the translation of Depth Charge Projector over the others.