Talk:Exercises (PvP)/@comment-84.90.161.45-20150604132613/@comment-76.167.67.201-20150618004950

Very easy in dealing with "the troll sub" in an opposing fleet while still using your preferred formation.

My preferred means of dealing with it is having 1 ASW capable ship, outfit your best Sonar and best Depth Charge. That alone gives your ASW capable ship enough capability to hit and kill the enemy sub while even using Line Ahead formation. This is especially true if you use a CL, which tend to have on average higher ASW stats, which you bolster with a Sonar and Depth Charge. You can still have space to mount a main for extra FP, or 2 if you are using Ooyodo/Yuubari.

If you're using Katori in your PVP fleet, she's more than capable of killing the enemy Sub while the rest of the fleet is filled with ships you want. Give Katori Sonar & Depth Charge, and she'll kill the sub just as well as any.

Also, OP, changing fleet composition is a necessity if you want to win consistently in Exercises/PVP. One fleet composition will not win them all, and thus, not net you more XPs. If you stubbornly refuse to adapt in a PVP aspect where you can mostly see what the opponent is bringing into the fight, then you deserve to lose. Anywhere other game with a PVP aspect you don't see the enemy's stuff until it's too late.

Anyways, you can use Subs on your own to heavily sway the advantage to your favor. Case in point are CA/BB heavy fleets that you know are typically strong in Firepower. They'll also go with Line Ahead by nature. But the page note of this:

"If you have a submarine as flagship and more than 1 submarine in the fleet, while the enemy has at least 4 ships, their formation will be line abreast."

This will castrate Main Gun/Firepower Heavy Fleets. Nothing like seeing a bunch of high-powered CAs like Myoukou-class, Choukai Kai Ni, Yamato, Musashi, Nagato, etc, plop your own SS Flagship +1 other SS, and see the enemy fleet go Line Abreast.