Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26091970-20150604000724/@comment-115.77.219.254-20150927071144

Vcharng wrote: 42.60.228.10 wrote: Would help if you could add in specifics regarding the choices, such as pros and cons (eg. CVA is already used for Attack Aircraft Carrier, if CV is chosen there will be a split similar like that for BB). CVA: Carrier, Attack (usually referred to as "Fleet Carrier" as well)

CVB: Carrier, Large (The only designation ever used specificly for an armored carrier, all other armored carriers simply used CV) Some sources (Teitoku no Ketsudan or something) use CVB to refer to Aviation Battleships

CVR: Created by people here, don't exist in reality

ACVR: Likewise.

As for the "Taihou is too small to be called CVB" issue:

Midway: 45000t (didn't find if it's standard or full load)

Taihou: 29770t normal, 37870t full load

Shoukaku: 32105t deep load

Essex (as the largest non-CVB US carrier): 31300t standard, 36960t full

Illustrious (British armored carrier, the RN doesn't have CVB nor Armored Carrier designation): 23000t standard

Implacable (improved Illustrious): 32630t deep load

So here's the deal:

1. Taihou is actually big enough to be called a CVB. As she is at least heavier (but a bit shorter) than Essex, and far bigger than Illustrious. Don't use her capacity to judge, as Taihou never actually used up her capacity and IJN aircrafts lack folding wings anyway. Allowing Taihou to be designated CVB will solve a lot of trouble, like when Illustrious is introduced.

2. Shoukaku K2A is more of a problem, but since K2A is appearently non-historic and certainly a lot heavier than historical Shoukaku, I think we can let that go.

So I think CVB is fine. We already invented too many non-historic and non-logical designations like CAV BBV and SSV, we don't need another if we can avoid to. Even if drop limit of CVB to 45.000 tons when compare with modern Supercarrier (60.000+ tons), and 45.000 tons is mininal require, Taihou is still not reach that require since still lack 6.000 tons even if full load in displacement matter with Midway 45.000 tons and Shinano 65.000 tons (standard displacement). Compare to size and number of aircraft, Midway able to carry 130 aircrafts, lenght 295m, wide 36.9m; and Shinano able to carry around 120 aircrafts with lenght 265.8m, wide 36.3m; while Taihou only can carry 65 aircrafts, lenght 260.3m, wide 27.4. Both CVB are far head from Taihou, if compare to size, number of aircraft and displacement, Taihou is even smaller than Akagi and Kaga abit.

Note, CVB term is for large aircraft carrier, not use only for armoured aircraft carrier, just because they are big enough to carry twin-engine aircraft, or later jet fighter, they need armoured flight deck for able to bear the force of those planes when landing, normal wood deck is not strong enough. CVB is term of displacement as heavy as Midway above, not for some kind of armoured or unarmoured flight deck, US or UK never use flight deck as feature to class them and create new brand of hull classification, CVB can use unarmoured flight deck and still be called CVB as long as heavy as 45.000 tons as minimal; otherwise, even the carrier using armoured flight deck but not able to reach minimum 45.000 tons, it is still not CVB.