Board Thread:Game Updates/@comment-3502824-20170829010745/@comment-30788908-20170830161701

Vcharng wrote: Cemenotar wrote: well for "nowhere as large" she is just 30 meters shorter - nowhere as heavy - yeah probably. also as far as I can keep track of RN carriers largest RN carrier during WW2, which could place her into position of "large" aircraft carrier.

The whole situation is kind of funny to me, myself because while there are heavy obvious hints towards saratoga there are also numerous less obvious hints which can be seen only when you have high enought knowledge on history of certain ships - leading toward Ark. Which kinda goes into setup where no matter the outcome someone does get trolled - be it Sara fans, or guys with more knowledge than is healthy for this game ;)

and then personally also I'd not create hype for any specific ship until CGI teases will get posted during downtime.

PS. I don;t understand why so many people are so insinstent onto using displacement to compare "sizes" of ships - alot of modern destroyers have displacement above heavy cruisers of WW2 - does that make them bigger? heck no, they are in fact still smaller ships - just packed with more stuff Dude, the Sara K2 was hinted by all those US aircrafts months ago, and also an interview in the beginning of this year, and even by the fact that SB2U was withdrawn in the very event she was introduced. How should Ark get her K2 now, despite all this and the fact that she was just introduced less than a month ago?

If you don't even know the fact that displacement is THE standard of comparing sizes of ships, how are you supposed to be qualified to dictate that there are hints toward Ark that "only can be seen when you have enough knowledge"?

The only thing that may make Ark somewhat related to Sara's K2 (and yes, it's Sara's) is that F6F-5N carries an Ark fairy, nothing more. And there are points that hints the K2 being NOT Ark:

1. None of those aircrafts were ever operated by Ark, including the only one with her fairy, the F6F-5N, the F6F was introduced 2 years after Ark's sinking.

2. No ship was ever given a K2 right after their introduction. The closest one was Bismarck, who was introduced in 14 March 2014 and got her K2 in 23 April (1.5 months later), and then K3 in 26 September. But Bismarck is a very rare exception: Her K2 and K3 were all compensatory measures for the fact that her Kai is too weak, and guess who is the only other example of such situation? Saratoga. She was meant to carry a successor of SBD on her Kai, and it was the SB2U, but then the devs found out that this was historically incorrect, so the SB2U was pulled (its library position reassigned to Jet Keiun Kai, likely that it will never be re-introduced), and Sara was given crap planes throughout her current remodels.

3. The dev's word "大型正規空母" (large standard carrier) was only used on two classes of CV: Shokaku- and Lexington-class. The devs did mention "large" when hinting for Sara before Fall 2016 event, but not for Ark. yes displacement is commonly used to compare ships - but in no credible source I have seem someone claiming ship being SMALLER or LARGER based on displacement.

1. were not operated by Ark, but were operated - even in this specific version [night fighters] by British forces [were given them from USAF]

1.1. also check out what saratoga was doing in indan ocean, and look what fairies of F6F-5N are doing

1.2. Also Ark historically was fitted with plane catapult - in same even she was introduced we were given prototype deck catapult without no obvious use for it

1.3. it is not uncommon practice in KC to use remodel mechanics to make ship into equivalent of it's successor - first obvious example - Bismarck Drei being de fact Tirpitz, other less obvious pararels would be Suzuya/Kumano Kai Ni Carrier and Ibuki

2. Also in no event before we were given prototype deck catapult without being given at same type a ship to spend it on. and planes aside last time I was checkign on opinions about sara she was perceived as "already very strong carrier", While also in it's current forms Ark (kai) does not perform up to it's historical parameters - heck she was more armored than any IJN carrier until Taiho and yet ends up with less armor than all of them? yeah

3. for all I know they were only hinting "large foreign carrier" with no specification on which exacly ship it was - msot of rest is speculation based on other hints.

Don't get me wrong - I am not saying that it will definitelly being Ark and not Saratoga - as for the moment beign there is alot of strong obvious hints pointing at saratoga - but jumping out the gun and claiming it is definitelly going to be saratoga at this point is still imo premature and risky move - especially considering hints toward different ships existing in such a number - and I didn;t even list above all of them - to which hints to notice you'd need to posses considerable amount of historical knowledge - and I do not "dictate" anything here I am stating a simple fact here.