Talk:Murakumo/@comment-190.27.112.124-20150316205626/@comment-201.127.36.118-20150330172422

 >Then someone will have to prove it wrong, because this isn't a one sided argument, if the guy who agree with the trivia cannot support its claims, the guy who don't agree have to show factual proof that it isn't a reference either, because at this point he is only speculating too.

 Did you read the rest of the comments?

 >It seems you have something against that bit of text, I will cite the souces because of spacer: Fubuki Ganbarimasu, Official famitsu magazinem the author's twitter, and even wikiwiki.

 >Yes, I have a problem with an unsourced piece of triva mentioning a sword on Murakumo's back that clearly doesn't exist. Stating the name of random pieces of media without citing the relevant links or text with this trivia proves nothing.





 The second comment is actually a solid /thread at that point, because the first one, the one that add the trivia and defend it basically said: “the sources to this exist, but I can’t show them for wherever reason so you have to believe my word”. Where is the panel of Fubuki Ganbarimasu proves it (volume, page number)? Where is the pic of the famitsu magazine? Why he didn’t quote the text from wikiwiki? Where is to the link to that famous tweet from the artist?

 But let not stop there:

 >checked wikiki and there is a reference to Ame no Murakumo but is because her name, checked the twitter but there is no way I'm going to check its 53k tweets to look for this, the Famitsu Murakumo card is  ''this but it is more about her spoils and demise (dunno about the untranslated bit, maybe it's there but probably not) and no idea about the 4koma. ''

 >I read Fubuki Ganbarimasu again because accord to the autor of the trivia that manga said something about the weapon be a reference of Ame no Murakumo no Tsurugi but I didnt find anything there.

 Quoted from wikiwiki:

 「叢雲」は群がり立つ雲という意味、気象学的には高層雲などを指す. 三種の神器の一つ「天叢雲剣 （ あめのむらくものつるぎ ） 」にも使われた由緒あるお名前.

 Like the other comment states, it mentions Ame no Murakumo no Tsurugi but as reference to her name (the original destroyer) not as her weapon.

 I read the 4koma here and I can link every single panel of Murakumo in that comic just to prove that the 4komas don’t said anything about it. Chapters 58 to 69 are missing but unless the reference conveniently is in one of those it should be more than enough to prove it wrong.

Again: A "It MAY be reference" is NOT a valid argument to put that info in the trivia.