Talk:Fall 2015 Event/@comment-27119040-20151123133008/@comment-26336961-20151123134022

Don't give up, really observe how your fleet is doing on the nodes you have a hard time on and keep tweaking, changing ships and equipment, it really makes a huge difference sometimes.

E-4 M second form isn't much harder, if you can do it on normal form you should still be able to do it, sometimes it might be a bad rng string.