Talk:Fall 2015 Event/@comment-175.45.185.0-20151123042613/@comment-26573402-20151123043654

well, i did meet the same problem as you with the final form of E4 normal. but i didnt need to resort to debuff (though u can do it, it's still farming node M for prinz/roma anyway) and i was using boss support instead. just a few runs, and you can win the boss if the engage is Parallel+ (saiun is a must for sortieing into this map so no T-red allowed).