Board Thread:Event Community Discussion/@comment-25730832-20170511175819/@comment-32000657-20170514053147

Vcharng wrote: 1. Yes, battlecruiser is CC according to USN, but no one is using that symbol (not even the USN as they don't have one of their own), BC is way more oftenly used. Another reason to object CC is that CC means that battlecruiser is a varient of cruisers, which is incorrect. Either by treaty or by common sense, it's a varient of battleships instead.

2. Destroyer Escorts are not Destroyers? are you sure about what you are saying? Before they were reclassified into frigates (that's in 1975, btw), they are, by definition. Unless they are at or slower than 20 knot as designed, it would just be a slower varient of DD and not some game-changing differences.

The British River-class Frigates are exempt from London treaty (speed just 20 knots, exactly the limit, and they were laid down in 1942 so this is actually kind of a concern), while all the DEs of the USN are not (either designed with a faster speed or with torpedoes), you know... Are you saying that everyone is fine with treating aircraft carriers as a type of cruiser? If they're fine with CV for aircraft carriers I don't see why they can't be fine with CC for battlecruiser. Just because it has a C in front doesn't automatically make it a cruiser. Similarly, having a D in front doesn't make it a destroyer. DE was even renamed Ocean Escort later on.

Ar-cen-ciel wrote: IMide wrote:Second, Destroyer Escorts are not destroyers, with one of the main differences (at least at the time) being having a much slower speed. You're thinking of Escort Destroyer, which is DDE. *Double take and check*

I thought they were purpose-built mini-destroyers? They may be slower and weaker than fleet destroyers, but they still have torpedoes and guns and all, and they're stated to be twice the displacement of our coastal defense ships. Definitely not a category you would want to lump the Kaibokans into, especially with IJN doctrine in mind. The Evarts-class DEs at least didn't have torps, and weren't much larger than the kaiboukan either.