Board Thread:Wikia Discussion/@comment-25683568-20150318062713/@comment-25351051-20150406103241

Ckwng wrote:

The 装 is not meant to convey a set, more a combined installation. Like, 12.7cm単装砲 is an installation of the 12.7cm gun in a single mounting (turret?). The 12.7cm連装砲 is an installation of the 12.7cm gun in a twin (literally: consecutive) mounting or turret. The non-existent 12.7cm三連装砲 is an installation of the 12.7cm gun in a triple (literally: thrice consecutive) mounting, etc. I definitely agree with the translation consistency. As (currently) the one who translates the update notes, I find that if I don't immediately come up with a translation (sometimes I don't have the time, given the fact that the next update note came in, or some other reason), I notice that the translation goes all over the place, e.g. the name for the 12.7cm HA + FD (this is my abbreviation, don't mind it), and how it's inconsistent with the 10cm HA + FD, before it was fixed.

In general, I'd say to keep in consistency with the name of the original Japanese ITEM name, i.e. not the name in the picture, but the name as per the item name, as specified by the text. A good example, as mentioned before, would be the 12.7cm HA + FD, which should be translated from 12.7cm連装高角砲+高射装置 and not 12.7cm連装高角砲+94式高射装置; actually, the same issue existed for the 10cm HA + FD. Ckwng wrote:
 * 爆雷 -> Depth Charge
 * 爆雷投射機 -> Depth Charge Projector

I think that Depth Charge Launcher is a more fitting translation for this item. Mathiaszealot wrote: Generally: What is the point of including the word "Mount" in the gun names? It adds nothing to the name (see here, they're all still quite clear). While it might be technically correct to include it, that's not always the best approach in translation. ...... 50. 53cm Submarine Bow Torpedo Mount (8 tubes): While less true to the ordering of the japanese text, it is more consistent with the other torpedo equipment to lead with the torpedo size. >>also @Ckwng

>>>PROPOSAL<<<

As a general rule, though, I think that with the equipment names (somewhat following Ckwng's rules, with a few tweaks):
 * Calibre, then, number (tuple) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuple#Names_for_tuples_of_specific_lengths, special attributes, then item type.
 * e.g. 12.7cm Twin Gun; or 53cm Octuple Submarine Bow-Mounted Torpedoes

Although the second one here has a different name in Japanese, I think consistency takes priority here, and thus should be translated according to the same system. With aircraft, and other non-gun non-torpedo; i.e. calibre-less equipment, however, I suggest:
 * Model (If the word "Type" is used, then that word must be at the front) > Type of craft or object > special attributes, including squadron
 * e.g. Type Ka (model) Autogyro (Type)
 * Type 99 (model) Dive Bomber (Type) (Skilled) (Attribute)
 * also: Model 12A Suisei and Model 12 Zuiun

However, things like Kai, Kai Ni and other remodel info should remain at the back, like a suffix with a space.

To allow for consistency, and to keep the meanings, I think that simply translating 砲 into "Gun" will suffice. This word refers to a weapon which used gunpowder to launch a projectile, and could be translated as Gun or Cannon. But since the weaponry on ships are referred to as "Naval Guns" and not "Naval Cannons", I think that translating 砲 into "Gun" is good enough.
 * Gun Mount should be translated from 砲台, not 砲. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artillery_battery#Naval_usage This is a Gun mount (砲台), but the individual guns in the battery are 砲. The Japanese names state the number of guns as part of the battery, but not the battery itself, like a kind of description, rather than naming the battery as one object.
 * For example, 10cm連装高角砲(砲架) (currently translated as 10cm Twin High-angle Carriage Mount), should, under the system I proposed (Calibre, Number, Attribute, Type), would become: 10cm Twin High-Angle Carriage-Mounted Gun

As I said before, I think SONAR and RADAR should keep the capitalizations. The community can omit the capitalization when talking, but the at least the translations should retain them.

With the anti-torpedo bulges, it's expansion, not extension. The "Expansion Bulge" refers to the fact that the bulge is an expansion of the hull, allowing it to bulge out, so to speak.

With that boiler, I believe it sounds better to have "High" twice, than to "factorize" it out(mathematical term). Basically, the idea is to remain as consistent as possible with the original name, but following the above-stated rules, and systems, for translation consistency, and allowing for easier reading, especially of lists.