Talk:General Discussion/@comment-114.160.71.148-20140704093927/@comment-24237563-20140704101910

wonder why so many people aiming for Shioi. I kinda regret wasting so much time for Hachi hunt back in 1-5 era (at least she helps sub expeditions)

Look at the current state of subs, they are pretty much exist for 2-3. Sure you can subcheese 5-3 and 5-5 (requires 3 BBs and supports tho) but thats pretty much it.