Talk:Zara/@comment-26375216-20160210191609/@comment-68.191.49.101-20160211121635

The one time the type 93s were effective on cruisers was during Savo, and that was because the IJN set up the perfect ambush. Every naval battle before and after saw the cruisers be completly usless in torpedo salvos, the most embarressing being the Second Naval Battle of Guadacanal, which saw Takao and Atago miss every torpedo launched against a helpess and stationary South Dakota. Also, calling them liabilities is a understatment, the IJN should not have been equipping them on their capital ships after 1942, when the tell tale signs of how dangerous they were to their user became apparent, especially with the domination of air power, and the increasing accurassy and power of shells. Chokai losing a gun duel with a CVE and Suzuya being sunk by a bomb that just grazed her was just some of the disasters that could of been averted.