Talk:Drop List/@comment-27082841-20151209161110/@comment-232062-20151209162837

Yes, you generally need an S rank for anything good. There is little point in trying to Hiyruu&Souryuu from Orel untill you've got ateast 4 remodled subs, even then their drop rate is low. I'm 105 with all 6 fighting subs between 96-115 and I've seen Hiyruu once, maybe twice from Orel and my subs only Orel, I never grind them elsewhere.. so that's a metic fuck ton of Orel runs with few sightings

I get my duplicate Souryuus from 4-3(J&F) and Hiyruus from 3-3 boss node. Both drop in world 4 maps (boss node) but with all the random branching of world 4 it's a pain in the ass to farm with any kind of speed or consistancy.