Talk:Fall 2016 Event/@comment-70.171.42.21-20161201043419/@comment-26082284-20161201094924

You need more fighters. No really. If you're not breaking to boss in 30 runs with heavy fleet, then that means either you are very, very unlucky or you're not getting AS in later nodes.

Take a look at Ayao setup.

With two Amagi-class I doubt there was AS at boss node even if they were fighter mules - not enough planes. AS is important here, as it gives somewhat reliable artillery spotting and that's only way to one-shot Wos. So instead it was AP (if not worse), BBs took down some small fries making maybe some scratch damage to Wos and missing a lot, while Wos and Hime wasted them at leisure one by one, as they still had a lot of bombers left. Pre-boss nodes were also hell, for the same reason - not enough air cover for air-raid nodes and not enough air superiority to enable reliable artillery spotting in Wo and Ru nodes to sink them before they sink you.

Air superiority and AP shell/artillery spotting setups are key to E4H LD. 3BB3CV would be better than 4BB2CV if you don't have AS at boss node.

I finished E4H LD with 4BB2CV fleet in three runs, but it was Akagi and Kaga, and they carried only fighters and many of them +12 or +11. It still took two takes on boss. On the other hand I did get to boss two times out of three, so it seems to work.