Talk:Fw 190T Kai/@comment-26904848-20151118174845/@comment-95.90.200.178-20151123000254

"What are you smoking?"

Military reports.

"Except one is a reliable low level energy fighter and the other can't turn well."

One is a killer energy fighter specialized in the bnz department being the first in its generation leading to everyone else scrambling to copy the idea. The other is a navalized version with an additional year in development. Oh, and the initial turn of a 190A is killer, it is the sustained turn where it fails at.

"Pffft, what?"

You said that the 190A, which is very similar to the F4U-A in performance, would do horribly against the zero. Ergo planes like the F6F and F4U would also do horribly against the zero, seeing as the zero outturnes them in any kind of sustained turning fight. And annihilates them if they go with low energy from the beginning because the zero pilot can actually use his full force and doesn't need to fear locking up.

Despite everything the F4F (worse than the F4U and F6) was able to trade 1 : 1 with the best the IJN had to offer. Not realy a good indicator of turnfighting being a good way of combat, but more a question of having the right manouvers, knowing the strenghts and weaknesses of yourself and your oppenent and abusing that to its full extent.



You take a 190A in to an extended turnfight and you WILL lose. You go and do a headon with a F4U against a 190A and you will be nothing more than a pile of debris.