Talk:World 5/@comment-92.37.8.53-20151104150652/@comment-26097716-20151106100009

I do 2 guns 2 torp bulges every month and it takes only 1 or 2 tries with 2BB 1BBV 2CA(V) 1CL without support expedition (assuming compass doesn't fail me, which doesn't happen that frequently with 2CA(V)).

That said the ships are all level 90+ but I don't think it should make that much of a difference, probably just terrible RNG on your side.