Talk:List of battleships by upgraded maximum stats/@comment-137.132.3.8-20140423031540/@comment-220.255.1.106-20140427150201

It's true they only had 69 armour before their Kai (next was Fusou/Yamashiro pre-Kai with 79 armour), but after their Kai they have armour on par with slow BBs and yet people still call them battlecruisers/say they lack armour.

And if you're going to play the history card, fast BBs can't equip AP ammo (which has nothing to do with fast BBs "lacking armour") but historically the Kongou class could.

Speaking of battlecruisers, Japanese KCV still calls the Kongou class battlecruisers. Does it also call Bismarck a battlecruiser?