Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-73.220.89.40-20150318192417/@comment-26574811-20151123153934

Ar-cen-ciel wrote:

Vcharng wrote:

Just a Simple Merchant wrote: Many of the Kancolle fanbase already don't like the foreigners for even bringing up the topic let alone use it to justify adding certain ships into the game. Where? Definitely not in Japan though. In wikiwiki the Japs are talking about British carriers and foreign TTKs like nothing special already. They also mentioned something I kept emphasizing: If they refuse to introduce Allied ships, there are only Shinano + 3 European Battleships left for any future large ship introductions. This is not a good way to lengthen the lifespan of the game.

In fact there are even, in Japan, criticism about KC questioning whether its a right-wing game or not, for it seems to promote the Axis side of WWII.

I didn't use anything as an excuse, those are solid reasons.

Oh, and did I forget to mention that our IJN ship girls already accepted another enemy of theirs? They accepted Akitsu Maru and Maruyu, from IJA. Check the history and see just how hostile the relationship between IJA and IJN was. Sources, pls. http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?Graf%20Zeppelin%B2%FE%2F%A5%B3%A5%E1%A5%F3%A5%C81

なんでもかんでも装甲化すりゃいいってもんじゃない --  2015-11-19 (木) 17:31:00 New (anyways, wouldn't it be good if she got remodeled into an Armored carrier?) The "far-right" accusation is a common criticism against KC in/near Japan, it is possible to be found nearly anywhere. Last time I saw one, it was on 艦これ速報. I even have the impression that some politicians used KC to accuse of far-right propaganda for Japanese youth back in 2013, but I can't find the link now, as two years have passed.
 * 英艦がくれば装甲空母祭りだ　頑張れ -- 2015-11-19 (木) 17:31:26 New (When the British ships comes, it will be a festival of armored carriers, just hang on until then.)
 * なんでもかんでも装甲化すりゃ~ お前大戦時のロイヤルネイビーにも同じこと言えんの？ -- 2015-11-19 (木) 18:25:38 New (did you said the same to the Royal Navy during the war?)
 * 流石のロイヤルネイビーも普通の空母の装甲化はしてないがな -- 2015-11-20 (金) 03:21:42 New (Even the famous Royal Navy never converted a normal carrier into an armored one, though)

Also:

http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?Graf%20Zeppelin%2F%A5%B3%A5%E1%A5%F3%A5%C81

未完成艦が来るとはね、この流れだとおなじ未完成の伊吹やアクイラなんかもいずれ来るんだろう、この分だと連合国側は実装しないんだろうか・・・. --  2015-11-18 (水) 23:21:22 (They are even introducing uncompleted ships, so I think Ibuki and Aquila would come as well, in exchange there will probably be no Allied ships) *1 He forgot about Kii and Owari (Super-Yamato-class) here. Ibuki is a light carrier, so it's not really a large ship in the devs' definition.
 * PTなんて完全に「アメリカ軍でしか使っていない略称」をとうとう深海側につけちゃったしね. -- 2015-11-18 (水) 23:31:18 (Well, the term PT was used only by the USN, so the allied are getting even more Abyssal)
 * そりゃお前、残ってる大型艦が日本はもう信濃、伊吹だけ、駆逐潜水以外ですら商船改装空母５隻と日進、香取くらいしかいないし枢軸も戦艦クラスは３隻（＋リシュリュー）だろうし、秋イベ始まったばかりでなんだけど冬イベにこん中から出るとしても多くて２隻、そうなると連合艦出すとすれば早くても来年春以降、３周年だし運営的にはそれで延命図るんじゃないの？ -- 2015-11-18 (水) 23:47:26 (But all the large ships left for IJN are Shinano and Ibuki*1, and all the non-DD-or-SS are the five CVEs and Hissin and the like. The whole axis side only has three BBs*2 left, plus Lichelieu. Even if we start introducing them now, we can't move on to Allied ships until next spring event ends. The game will have passed its 3rd anniversary by then, wouldn't the devs use this*3 as a life-expander?)

<span class="comment_date" style="font-size:x-small;">*2 I think that  calculation came from  Tirpitz+Scharnhorst+Gneisenau, but in reality there are also Andrea Doria class (2 ships) and the rest of the V.Venetto class. Still, according to current KC policy about foreign ships, Tirpitz and Gneisenau are most likely out of the game, and so is Caio Duilio (Andrea Doria-class #2), if not the whole AD class. The rest of the V.Venetto class, according to how Roma and Littorio are introduced, are also out of the game. Even if we give a go to the H-class, that would only be Scharnhorst + AD + Lichelieu + H-39x2+ Aquila. That would, at most, last for an year, what about next? And remember, the only combat-capable (as in not having CVL capacities with BB displacements) standard carrier in this list is Shinano (with hypothetical remodel), that means only one (real) carrier left.

<p style="line-height:15.6px;margin-top:0.3em;margin-bottom:0.3em;">*3 This= Allied ships.

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<p style="line-height:15.6px;margin-top:0.3em;margin-bottom:0.3em;">From these comments you can see that the Japs are not against Allied ships at all. In case if you don't know, they also broadly accept the thought that some Abyssals are Japanese ships.

<p style="line-height:15.6px;margin-top:0.3em;margin-bottom:0.3em;">Here's a list of Abyssals thought to be Japanese ships by the Japanese afaik:

<p style="line-height:15.6px;margin-top:0.3em;margin-bottom:0.3em;">AA hime (Teruzuki)

<p style="line-height:15.6px;margin-top:0.3em;margin-bottom:0.3em;"> Anchorage Water Demon (Ki-77 #2, which went MIA over Indian Ocean)

<p style="line-height:15.6px;margin-top:0.3em;margin-bottom:0.3em;">CV hime (Kaga)

<p style="font-weight:normal;margin-top:0.3em;margin-bottom:0.3em;line-height:15.6px;">CL hime (Jintsu)

<p style="font-weight:normal;margin-top:0.3em;margin-bottom:0.3em;line-height:15.6px;">CL demon (Naka)

<p style="line-height:15.6px;margin-top:0.3em;margin-bottom:0.3em;">DD hime (Harusame)

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<p style="line-height:15.6px;margin-top:0.3em;margin-bottom:0.3em;">Finally, do I need to remind everyone that Tanaka did state that he is planning to introduce Allied ships? And that Abyssals = Axis and Allied sunken ships is the official setting?