Board Thread:Game Updates/@comment-26091666-20160122024851/@comment-4720919-20160122163234

Sshinka wrote: SonyaUliana wrote: Is there a reason as to why you feel it's wrong to introduce US ships to this game? I mean, why are German and Italian ships fine, but then US ships are not? It's just that as someone who studied Naval Warfare History for many years... I am no less than disguisted by USN/WW2/Pacific. IJN Sailors were shown no quarters. After Naval battles USN Sailors would kill time by using any darker skinned heads they see at the ocean surface for target practice. During the later half of the war in Pacific Theater, despite both techological and numerical advantage, USN was plagued with incompetent commanders and crews. There are exceptions, of course.

What i'm talking about is the daily stuff like USS Iowa equiped with guns and rangefinders that were science fiction for IJN at the time, firing 56 16" shells and 129 5" shells at IJN Katori which was listing to side with reduced speed and maneuverability (as a ship that sucked at both in the 1st place). It took Iowa and the rest of her fleet over 30 minutes to sink one cheapo, barely a warship, ship. That glorious fleet consisted of Iowa (BB), New Jersey (BB), Minneapolis (CA), New Orleans (CA), Burns (DD), Bradford (DD).

Add to stuff like that all the 10 vs 1 air battles and 10 vs 1 land battles. Even the much glorified battle of Iwo Jima was 5 vs 1 with full air supperiority and ridiculous ammounts of naval shelling throughout the battle. How long it took USN to secure that piece of rock? Over a month.

In the end let me just say that i'm not someone who holds sides with Allies or Axis... that would be kinda stupid after all this time, and in short, i don't care about that stuff whatsoever.. but as someone who cares about human life other than my own...

the thing that makes me wanna barf even if i live in other time, and even after all those years have passed by since it happened, is the fact that US prevented JPN from surrendering to them for full 4 months in order to test their A-Bombs on JPN civilians.

So... i'm sorry... i don't wanna play with anthromorphised USN WW2 Ships.

US had totally different qualities at the time - for instance, the ability to produce one hundred and fifty CV/CVL/CVE from the beginning, to the end of WW2. Look, to get things answered in order:

First, the Japanese were bringing their outdated warrior culture with them to the ships; heck, their spartan choice of living quarters (which is what resulted in Ashigara's "hungry wolf" snide remark) is just a consequence of navy staff training them for a conflict with the US in the 36 years that elapsed from Tsushima to Pearl, as they saw the US in a negative light once Big Stick Teddy chose to suspend further Japanese immigration after the Russo-Japanese hissy fit. Even the US had it's share of problems too; case in point, several of Portland's crew were legally underage, not because of systems in recruitment, but because the youth themselves misdeclared their ages just to join the fight.

Second, the Americans had the guns and technology, but even THEY had problems. From faulty Mk13 torpedoes to poor handling of TBF Avengers in Midway to overconfidence in technology that resulted in them getting their aft parts kicked in Savo, Tassafaronga, Kula Gulf, and Kolombangara, they took their time to learn from their mistakes. One does not simply learn new tech in one go.

Third, the disparate ratios were just reflective of the Americans' determination to curb-stomp the Japanese for attacking a "neutral" fleet without so much as a declaration of war (no thanks to embassy staff out on a Sunday and Nomura taking too long to decipher and deliver the note). The Americans thought of the Japanese as "cowards" from this action, and they had that "no one messes with America and gets away with it" mentality.

Fourth, human life? Anyone who had the nerve to watch Grave of the Fireflies after playing the game would realize that that's the way it stays in war.

Plus, the US Navy insisted on a blockade of the Home Islands in a similar way like in the Civil War, that would have meant lesser fatalities than the US Army's choice to use strategic bombing raids. It was only the result of Operation Ten-Go that the US decided to "end the needless sacrifices" before more got hurt.