Talk:Richelieu/@comment-176.10.98.132-20170903160900/@comment-176.10.115.135-20170904055116

@SpootKnight I already mentionned in my original post what I compare her to: Iowa/V-Veneto/Bismarck, because that's where she should stand in terms of stats. She was one of the best armored ship in the war, it makes absolutely no sense for her armor to be so average. Theorically she should have better armor than Iowa in game, but for the sake of balance being a bit below would be fine. No lower than 103 though, preferably 105.

FP wise, Iowa should obviously be in the lead. Italia and Roma being second is fair game because they had 9 381mm rifles instead of 8 380mm like Bismarck and Richelieu. But there's no real reason for her to be below Bismarck, and her being below the Kongous is just nonsense. 99FP would make perfect sense, but it could even be a bit higher as the French 380mm had superior penetration values to the German 38cm.

AA wise, she was filled to the brim with 20mm and 40mm AA guns after her refit, as well as US and British radars (which were far superior to Japanese radars). She could pretty easily be in the ~95-100+ range.

With these stats, we have a pretty good balance between FBBs like I mentionned in my first post: Bismarck remains the yasen queen thanks to her torp stats, Iowa remains the best day fighter, followed by Richelieu (armor advantage) and Italia/Roma (FP advantage) tied for second best, and the Kongou sisters in third place thanks to their advantageous fuel/ammo consumption. Each ship class has a role with distinctive strengths. Obviously, her fuel and ammo consumption would get worse to balance it out.

As far as the Kai vs Kai Ni argument goes, I'd like to point out that Littorio, Roma, Iowa and Warspite were all competitive with just a Kai remodel. Richelieu isn't.

And while I hope  Richelieu Kai Ni  will happen soon I'm not really optimistic about it. If the devs had felt that her situation was not good enough they would've given her a third form at release like they often do nowadays. The reality is that they simply felt that her Kai is a good enough representation of the ship when it really isn't.

@Tennousu Oh dear god, please someone find a way to forward him the informations I posted in my original post ;-;

And yes, Aquila is a disgrace in her current state.