Board Thread:Game Updates/@comment-3502824-20170808031203/@comment-2601:646:9100:CA60:E558:3BEE:9635:2860-20170810143536

181.49.93.251 wrote:

Kegietthue997 wrote:

Kenzo40 wrote: Vcharng wrote: Dreddz wrote: Kenzo40 wrote: Guys it's confirmed, we will get the RICHELIEU  !!!!!





most likely, she'd have the attributes of Littorio and Roma: agility and very long range. But the 38 cm quad gun mount had the same dispersion problems as the Italian 381 mm triples due to how they were built, which means same accuracy and EVA drawbacks as the Italian guns. The main gun of the Italian BBs have a shell velocity of 910m/s, the Richelieu's only has 785. The main reason why the Italians have poor accuracy is because the unusually high velocity caused the barrel to be worn out very quickly, a problem Richelieu would most likely not encounter.

BTW, Richelieu had 56x 40mm Bofors and 50x 20mm Oerlikons, that's some very serious AA fire, I would say. Richelieu's guns had originaly a shell velocity of 830m/s but changed to 785m/s after a refit in 1942. After her refit in the USA in 1943, she fired US shells and had a shell velocity of 800m/s.

The main problem for the inaccuracy of the Richelieu was caused by the close proximity of the barrels of her guns like the Dunkerque (same problem than some Italian and US cruisers). This problem was resolved post-war by adding delay coils to the center guns. So she will have Range: Long and - accu? The italians guns were as powerful as a 16-inch, with even longer range. Richelieu's were not as powerful, so they will be more like Bismarck's or a little better than Warspite's

For those commenting on accuracy, the reason for the italain guns being so inaccurate, was because they didn't constructed shells of regular quality, resulting in unpredictable patterns because of mistakes in the construction of some shells. The french guns were more accurate, but they were nothing special.

The delay coils were introduced by the Japanese and british in the mid 30s, as japanese heavy cruisers and british new battleships and light cruisers had dispersion problems, that was the solution thought off, emulated by the americans and germans during WWII and by the italians, russians and french after the war

That first statement is really misleading as the 16 inch guns came with a rather wide variety of power, qualities, and penetrating characteristics. For example, the Nelsons' guns were not equal to the Nagato, both were different from the North Carolinas' and with the Iowas' 16 inch standing out amongst all of them. You're better off comparing it to the guns of specific ships than throwing out a whole entire gun calibre.

The unpreditable dispersion pattern of the Italian 380 cm guns were mostly attributed to poor powder quality and a short barrel life; the guns had rather decent, predictable dispersion under ideal conditions during their early trials. The French guns had a dispersion problem in a similar fashion the the Kirov class cruisers with vibrations from firing turrets packed with closely-fitted guns causing the issue.

And even though delay coils may have existed for a while prior to WWII, not all ships that needed them got them. The Richelieu didn't get hers until 1947-8 when the French started looking into modern gun fier control systems because it would be pointless to fit an aimbot onto a ship if dispersion meant you still couldn't hit anything. "Richelieu had delay coils for the center guns of each turret fitted in 1947-1948 when a tighter dispersion pattern was desired in order to take the maximum advantage of radar fire control" (Navweaps.com).