Board Thread:Event Community Discussion/@comment-25730832-20170511175819/@comment-26574811-20170513113602

Hyper Shinchan wrote: Vcharng wrote: Nah, what I mean was that the IJN was very bad at their so-called escort effort, military or civillian ship alike.

Just in the second half of 1944, IJA lost about two divisions of men to sunken troop transport alone. That's after the Japanese finally embraced the concept of convoys. So I would say that there's no actual Japanese equvalent to what the Allies refer to as "convoy escort", as the Japanese "counterpart" are very far away from effective. If we go by this logic Japanese submarines aren't that much of a counterpart either, carriers stopped being that after the end of 1942 and the battleships never reached something comparable to Surigao Straits.

So we never said that the Japanese subs have the same role as their American counterpart, did we? However, these DE supporters are saying that DE and Kaiboukan have the same role as their reason to support the DE classification, which is incorrect. Carriers, BBs and SSs are defined not by their role, so there's no such a problem.