Board Thread:Off Topic/@comment-25730832-20160122165904/@comment-108.184.57.239-20160128121046

Honestly, I think it's pretty plain to see at this point that abyssals are the abyssals. They can be reincarnations of allied ships, they can be reincarnations of axis ships, they can basically be anyone or anything really. Abyssals are (canonly) nothing other than embodiments of hate, grief, fear and other such negative emotions. To my knowledge, there's no canon source that directly states that just because there is an abyssal version of a ship does not mean there cannot be a kanmusu version of a ship. In fact, it's already been proven with Mizuho and AV princess that both a kanmusu and their abyssal-ized version can co-exist at the same time. Also, there isn't a canon source that states that the US or any other allied nation in the kancolle universe does not possess shipgirls of their own.

Basically, allied shipgirls would fit perfectly into the current kancolle canon and the whole "Allied ships can't be in kancolle because they're the abyssals" thing is an extremely tired argument that doesn't even hold up anymore