Talk:PT Imp Pack/@comment-27828804-20170822094707/@comment-1915363-20170823130813

They do work against them... about half of the time. My shipgirls killed them in droves no problem in various ways, and I used green guns + Skilled Lookout or AA guns to do it.

The shining variant is still a pain to deal with though. If you're in a Combined Fleet, they're practically untouchable.