Board Thread:Event Community Discussion/@comment-28069733-20170521154728/@comment-1637496-20170524223600

Bararun wrote: Nobody is telling you to use DE, in fact you can use the classification you favour the most and even modify the viewer of your choice to use whatever definition you consider correct.

That was not the point of the poll.

The point of the poll was to know which abreviation gathered the most support among the comunity and go with it in order to make everything easier for everyone in order to use an abreviation. Remember that the main point of going with USN abreviations is ease of use, not historicity. This is showed pretty clearly when we are using made up classifications (CLT) or straight wrong classifications (CVB). Hell, for full historicity we should drop the USN classification completely and call then by their IJN classification.

Even so, in light of the historical evidence, a poll was arranged that was heavily rigged against DE as to give the historical arguments a chance to become the standard yet the poll showed the strong support DE enjoyed over any other option that was proposed, historical (PF) and made up (EE and KB), this goes to show that the "something else" side wasn't an homogenous side with a single reply.

As such, a conclusion was done on the subject: that DE has the most support among the comunity over any other classification proposed and that as such it is the option that has the most supporters. With over 750 participants the poll could be considered a success not only because it was an excercise on comunal decision making but also because it showed that people are willing to participate and make their voices heard and respected on this matters.

In contrast what you are proposing is a closed poll for a closed number of members of a comunity of hundreds of people to decide what everyone else should use. To make matters worse, since the organizers are clearly stating they WILL ignore votes based on arbitrary values and are also against one of the options that will be presented it is not clear wether this poll will actually have any legitimacy if none at all. First of all I don't understand how any of this is related to my annoyance at a moderator formulating his opinion in an inappropriate way, if that's how moderators are allowed to behave in this community then regular users should be forgiven if they directly called each other things.

In second lieu I never said that I support this restricted poll mentioned above by CRDW, if anything else because the partial poll showed that EE, which is an even less historical option, would prevail between the alternatives. Before I tactically called for a democratic decision exactly because I wanted this kind of outcome when Tsubakura tried to enforce EE/ES/EV upon everyone.

Third, in that poll DE didn't receive the absolute majority of the votes, that's enough to ensure that people won't drop it that easily.

Lastly, USN hull codes might have picked because of practical reasons but only human stupidity prevented us from using the actual, historically used, classification (PF)