Board Thread:New on Kancolle Wiki/@comment-25637142-20150131171807/@comment-25534439-20150207153950

And an additional bit in reference to the Expedition/Tables; The tables are a solid attempt to display the information as it existed in the old page's multitude of tables into a more coherent whole. However, I have to take issue with this because, functionally, they don't present the interesting information well.

I can't speak for others, but there is a lot of information in the table that I honestly don't care about, because it has no impact on why or where I'm sending expeditions. Generally I have expeditions running in 1 of two modes; Active, where I'm playing and care most about hourly rewards and the requirements to finish the expedition; and inactive, where I'm signing off for the day and need total rewards and the requirements to finish the expedition. Thus:

I care about:

Expedition Number, Hourly resource rewards, Total resource rewards, Fleet/Drum Requirements, Time

I do not care about:

Expedition Name, HQ Experience, Fleet Experience, Fuel/Ammo consumption, Item rewards

So it irks me to see the Expedition Name taking up ~15% of both the first and second tab when, as a non-japanese reader, it means NOTHING to me. Further, the experience rewards, even for the best fleet experience expeditions are pathetic. I can't speak for the new expedition, but given its length I doubt it will be much better. HQ experience is not significantly different between expeditions to justify a front page column either; it's a footnote. Fuel and ammo consumption might make a difference between two similar expeditions, but doesn't rank highly, since DDs don't have much fuel/ammo consumption anyway.

Maybe I'm misguided in thinking so, but if the table is to be split into tabs as it is currently, the information on the front tab should be the most relevant information. 'Above the fold' as the newspaper phrase goes. Splitting the data over the two tabs is necessary to fit it into one page, but it is cumbersome to flip between tabs to match the rewards and requirements together and to then have to pop open a notepad to scrawl down the hourly rates that should already be there.

Part of why the old page got to be so table loaded is that the information couldn't all be fit into one table. Since reworking the tables to remove the columns that didn't matter was frowned upon (that being a major rework to a major page), people added another table to add in the information they wanted to see. Thus, following the Total Rewards table, an Hourly Rewards table and a Requirements table were added. For the sake of consistency, these duplicated a lot of useless information, leading to the lengthy mess of the old expedition page.

Your goals are to reduce clutter and efficiently present information, then the first tab should include the information people are looking for:

ID, Total rewards, Hourly rewards, Requirements

If I write verbosely it is because I care greatly about this rework and I want it to solve as many of the problems as possible. I don't want to see the new expedition page as cluttered as the old one with unimportant information taking up half the tables. Please consider breaking the mold from the old page and display the information in a new way!