Talk:Suggestion/@comment-25490263-20150216091405

This suggestion will discuss the organization of Ship list with each kanmusu placed only once versus multiple times.

Apologizes to Tokitsukaze's buried suggestion.

To begin with, contributions to the discussion from the Katori category placement suggestion are: Mathiaszealot, HandgunOtonashi SlashZero, Ckwng, Dragonjet 1, Dragonjet 2, Dragonjet 3, & Dragonjet 4.

Second, are the kanmusu under discussion: Aviation Cruisers, Aviation Battleships, Torpedo Cruisers, the Chitose-class, Taigei/Ryuuhou, & Training Cruisers.

Moving to the discussion, this will be an attempt to articulate why it would be preferable to have them placed in multiple categories.

First, as a rebuttal to Dragonjet 4, Katori, as SlashZero & Ckwng have described, has value as a light cruiser due to usage as one in PvP & being explicitly a cruiser when not consider routing, expeditions, etcetera. Thus, this contests the assertion, being alone in the page with nothing to compare to, since she can be either listed separately or linked to on EliteCL. Katori is not a Training Ship but a Training Cruiser.

Secondly, as a rebuttal to HandgunOtonashi, in part to this specific case, although her stats may be terrible as light cruiser, that should only mean that she'll be the new worst light cruiser, displacing whomever was the prior worst. Regardless, this is only a stat-focused consideration & should not eliminate her from certain categorizations, that is, also being a light cruiser.

Now, as a solution, there is the method employed for the Chitose-class & Taigei/Ryuuhou - multiple categories.

Being represented multiple times in the list should not be considered confusing because it's a fact of the game - those kanmusu's remodeling scheme. It will enlarge the list a bit, but with 151 kanmusu as of now, discounting remodeling & class changes, it cannot be helped.

As an outline, Mogami, Mikuma, Suzuya, Kumano, Tone, Chikuma, Fusou, Yamashiro, Ise, Hyuuga, Kitakami, Ooi, Kiso, & Katori, would continue to be in their categories; however, they would be also placed in new categories of Aviation Cruisers, Aviation Battleships, Torpedo Cruisers, & Light Cruisers. Further, Ship & Ship Class would need to be edited as needed. This is not a new issue, as illustrated by the last FAQ question.

The distinction should be further clarified on their ship page & the respective lists as players will need to know about the remodel changes anyways. For example, on Ise, there would be a List of battleships: In basic form & List of Aviation Battleships: when Kai, as well as those two lists linking to each other in the notes as they do now.

As an aside, it applies to Ooyodo & Akashi as well, though NPCs seem to be handled differently.

Unless a reorganization of how the Ship list is proposed, this is hopefully be a clearer method of accounting for their current form without ignoring their other forms.