Talk:World 3/@comment-145.53.88.193-20170414193449/@comment-145.53.88.193-20170415124534

I didn't post my setup because it is completely unsurprising and mostly as mentioned downthread: Hayasui with Ryuusei Kais and SCAMP, Mizuho and Chyioda with Seirans/Z12 and minisubs, Jintsuu with 2guns and night scout, Abukuma and Kitakami with 2guns and minisub. Most eligible equipement is moderately improved. AO and AVs are mid-60s, Jintsuu is mid-80s and ABKM & KTKM are around 130.

Should get results, right? Nope. I've been giving it some more tries simply to see if I had an unlucky run, only to get sent back from A six times in a row. They didn't pass even once, which is actually *worse* than before.

The problem seems to be that, while strong, the opening attack isn't quite enough to get rid of all the heavy ships at A. There'll always be some that get off a shot, and you have six targets that have the perfect amount of armor and hp to get *no benefit at all* from overkill protection against Ta and Ri; and half of them can't dodge worth shit. You still need quite a bit of luck to make it through, just as much as with 1CL5DD in fact, and I, apparently, don't have it.

So good on you if it works out for you; I guess you're lucky (or I am especially unlucky). But it doesn't work for me, I'm filing it under "neat idea but ultimately unproductive".

None of which is intended to discourage anyone from trying the comps for themselves of course. Apparently good results *are* possible.